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2011-01-10 23:17:20 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
RE: Re: break in match (aka nerve storm)
# 5239
I wrote that yours openings was not top secret as wrotes Bromozel, nothing else.

Pls don't write respect, you're not funny.

oh sorry, who has problem with understanding mine english ? :F
2011-01-10 23:12:28 Vlad Nipoti (czpaybtc)
RE: Re: break in match (aka nerve storm)
# 5238
Just one correction.

"And, finally, with respect to the statement on our captain's "too late to play," it must have been about the server that was continuously fading, not the team members. Maybe a misunderstanding between two non-natives of English :)"

It was me, who spoke to your captain. And it understanding of two russian speakers...

But these are just details...

Maybe it is not Zukole's self-confidence but just your lack of confidence.

2011-01-10 22:54:25 Alex Popiel (lolamaza)
Re: break in match (aka nerve storm)
# 5236
Dear Opponents:

With respect to Zukole's perfect wording mentioning the fact that our team was down after the first round, I can say that the same had happened during the fixture with North Pole, which, however, could not prevent us from winning the whole match. So please do not flatter your self-confidence too much.

With respect to highly esteemed AliceCooper who mentioned the fact that after only 25 minutes the DW players were back on site, I can say that personally I could not and I can prove it with the corresponding data (two automatic print-screens taken on 19.55 CET [My game with Zukole, move 29] and 20.25 CET; and a manually taken print-screen of 20.27 CET) showing that the server was still down, the data being available from me at any time by request.

With respect to another statement by AliceCooper of our captain's presence on the site while all of the other LXO players could not access it, he told us later that he never left the site and it did sometimes refresh for those users who had not abandoned the page. In the meanwhile we were trying to access the site but unfortunately failed to do so due to reasons not depending on us.

And, finally, with respect to the statement on our captain's "too late to play," it must have been about the server that was continuously fading, not the team members. Maybe a misunderstanding between two non-natives of English :)
2011-01-10 22:52:24 Marek Gorzecki (alicecooperpl)
RE: break in match
# 5235
some statistics: (all taken from playok)

cuartodebano lost 18:53 back 19:36 after 43 min
devotionpl lost 18:53 back 19:19 after 26 min
dwgacul lost 18:53 back 19:36 after 43 min
pczukole lost 18:53 back 19:18 after 25 min
alicecooperpl lost 18:53 back 19:22 after 29 min

so we have 3 players ready to play BEFORE 30 min period
2011-01-10 22:41:23 Ilya Katsev (lobromozel)
RE: break in match
# 5234
How many answers!

I only say the next:

1. We also were kicked out. Several times the server looks at working but only for seconds, after it it was down again.

2. It was longer than 30 minuts.

3. After it we have no reason to think that server started to work correctly and in the near future there will be no troubles.
2011-01-10 22:24:51 Vlad Nipoti (czpaybtc)
RE: break in match
# 5231
Hello The Lords,

I would like to comment your statement.

The situation was following. During the failure of players from Czech republic, Poland, Hungary were kicked out whereas players from Russia and Ukraine were not. Unfortunately we managed to get to the playing room maybe a bit later than 30 minutes. When we did, the captain of the Lords reamined. Others went away with the excuse of being too late for playing, although accoring to the schedule it would have been only the end of second round. So the match would have taken a bit more time, if the opponent had wanted.

7.8. If the server ( does not work and some games of the match has been played and some players can not continue in their match, then:

this rule means this: 7.8. If the server ( does not work and some games of the match has been played and some players DOES NOT WANT TO continue in their match, then:

I find excuse like " Preparation took us a long time and it would be in vain" paarticularly unsuitable in this case, as they had got chance to play on.

One more question. If the result had been 15,5:0,5 and there was server failure, it would have ended up like draw too?

Apparently there are some lacks in the rules or I mistake something.

I thought that Euroleague was about playing and competition. AFter this round and those two cases I may change my opinion.

Kind regards

2011-01-10 22:24:04 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
RE: break in match
# 5230

"as our current opens and particular branches have been revealed."

Yes and you loss first round 2-6 so nice.

2011-01-10 22:18:04 Marek Gorzecki (alicecooperpl)
RE: break in match
# 5229
1) i wish to be nice so i propose to play
2) but i see You won't play only becouse afraid (so want draw without playing)
3) in this case i ask committee to fulfill duties and decide

"7.7.If the server ( does not work, the teams have to wait 30 minutes and:"

we (DaW) back on server after ca 25 minutes
but the Lords go out !
only their captain left and he say that they not wish to continue match

so i ask: They do not wait 30 min so what committee decide?
is rule 7.7 only empty words?

PS please don't tell us "you have all round to play" becouse we have not
when we propose match date, the Lords say "My team have voted for Jan. 9, and this is our first and last say."

2011-01-10 21:17:47 Ilya Katsev (lobromozel)
RE: break in match
# 5228
Good evening

We highly respect our Round 3 opponent team, which is why we tried to postpone the match on the last day of the Round and we kept preparing a lot. Unfortunately, a rematch could wind our prolonged preparations away, as our current opens and particular branches have been revealed. We believe that a rematch would decrease our chances compared to the match that, unfortunately, due to the server failure, could not succeed yesterday. This is the main reason why we decline the rematch offer, which results in a permanent draw according to the Euroleague rule 7.8.3.

The three players on our team are having examinations right now, whilst the remaining four are relatively aged and have serious jobs and obligations other than studentship and playing gomoku, which is why we cannot afford organized gathering on a more frequent basis than once a month.

We sincerely wish you good luck in the forthcoming rounds.

Best regards,
2011-01-09 20:50:37 Tomo Dernovšek (jezek_si)
RE: break in match
# 5209
You can play a new match during the next round if both captains agree. Read the rules 7.8.1. and 7.8.3.
2011-01-09 20:48:47 Ádám Varga (songokukek)
Kulonleges Erook-GDC
# 5208
1.round :
elizabethkek-bye: +;-

pule-bye: +;-

songoku-bye : +;-
rolandka-robca: 2-0
elizabeth-zeyferos: 1-1 (1-0,0-1)

songoku-robca: 2-0
rolandkaa-bye: +;-
elizabeth-mbica: 2-0
2011-01-09 20:30:44 Marek Gorzecki (alicecooperpl)
break in match
# 5207
We (Demons and Wizards) start play today match with The Lords of XO
after first round server throw us and we cannot play in for near 25 minutes
We want continue match so i ask the Lords what date is suitable?
2010-12-23 17:51:43 Andrey Sviridov (cr_spartak)
RE: cRUS - Superteam_
# 5186
Zukole you know too much. Don't you afraid? :-))

Frankly dunno why it is 1-0. I did not make any changes. Maybe EL site knows future.
2010-12-23 14:02:27 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
cRUS - Superteam_
# 5185 why is 1-0 for cRUS if match is on 19:30? :-)
2010-12-21 22:00:05 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
ani za prase - rockfall
# 5178 :D:D:D:D:D:D
2010-12-06 18:41:03 Csilla Vassné B. (th_vacsi)
RE: Trojan Horse - Ani za Prase
# 5094
Thank you zukole,you are right !

Suchuch missed this result and me too,sorry.

Ani za prase : Trojan Horse 9:23
2010-12-05 21:49:49 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
Trojan Horse - Ani za Prase
# 5092
Was 23-9, not 24-8

th_zakka - : metalmessiah 1:1

zakka 4/8
metalmessiah 2/8
2010-11-22 13:54:06 Andrey Sviridov (cr_spartak)
RE: cRUSaders vs
# 5051
Hello friends and particular committee members!

I would like to say that yesterday i changed detailed match result in cRUSaders vs GDC game. We played 2 rounds after wich our opponents dissapeared (exept thier captain). Thus i added results of first 2 rounds. I also think captain of GDC did not have enought time to approve result after my editing. And the team should not be punished with pp for the rule 9.3.
2010-11-22 10:48:23 Ilya Katsev (lobromozel)
RE: KE - The Lords
# 5050

Okey, I will change the results of the games.
2010-11-22 10:22:47 Tomo Dernovšek (jezek_si)
RE: KE - The Lords
# 5049
Hi, Alex,

sorry, but you made 3 substitutions and the result of the games shuakek - lonirvana(or noplayer) will be +/-, +/-.
We had a similar situation in the previous season, when players E and F replaced A and B. In the last round of the match A replaced E again and this is also not allowed, although a team played with 6 players and not with the 7 ones as your team.
Your team will get just some pp. Read the rules carefully again. If you have any questions/suggestion..., write on the forum EL/rules.

2010-11-22 09:02:49 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
RE: Company - Demons
# 5048
Ok, is good, sorry :)
2010-11-22 00:51:16 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
Company - Demons
# 5047
I approve match results Company - Demons and Wizards, Alicecooper doesnt have access to internet :-)
2010-11-21 21:14:58 Alex Popiel (lolamaza)
RE: KE - The Lords
# 5046
Dear Committee,

I feel I have to explain the whole situation. Our team does lack some experience in casuistic issues and this is true that during the fixture between The Lords of XO and Kulonleges Erook (26:6), 3 players of The Lords were subbed. After round 2, logelo0one and loraficus were subbed by loigor and lobromozel, whilst after round 3, lonirvana was subbed by lolamaza. We did not know about rule 5.6 and this is of course our fault. Nevertheless, the issue raised by zukole, a reputable person, is not entirely legal.

Rule 5.6 says that “It is allowed to change twice in the match,” but nothing is explicitly stated whether or not a change must be single or, videlicet, double. Had there been a direct wording, viz. “only 6 players may play in a fixture, whilst the 7th player substitution is followed by [a penalty point]” we would gladly obey the rule which must not allow for additional readings. However, it does so now.

I do entirely confess that I had not read the rule at issue before today’s fixture and will do my best not to let anything like this happen in the future, but please take it into consideration, that there is no explicit statement with respect to the exact number of the players taking part in the fixture, as, say, it is stated in football rules (viz., “The eleven players are supplemented by the option to bring on a maximum of three substitutes from a pre-decided list of three to seven players...”).

I hope that this incident will not cast a shadow over the good name of The Lords of XO and will be carefully addressed by those, To Whom It May Concern, if my explanations do not satisfy them.

Yours sincerely,
2010-11-21 20:48:08 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
KE - The Lords
# 5045
Can someone explain The Lords, that can make only two changes, so can play six players ?:) Lamaza has problem with rules :)
2010-11-17 15:55:03 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
RE: cRUSaders vs GDC
# 5042
You have nice team :-)
2010-11-16 20:40:43 Jiří Šimůnek (zeyferos)
cRUSaders vs GDC
# 5040
cRUSaders = win

Most of players from GDC team left after they saw they have no chance against cRUSaders.
2010-05-09 23:03:33 Peter Jonsson (peterjo)
Match infinite llamas - luffarna
# 4898
On Sunday May 9 we had no opponent. We waited for quite a long time. I did not write any results but let this be done by admin.

Peter Jonsson Captain Luffarna
2010-05-08 18:05:02 Michał Żukowski (zukolepl)
Biysk - Company 16:12
# 4896
Biysk - Company 16:12

01 - an24 1:1
sergey - rakdar 0:2
vitaliy - noname1 +:-
noname1 - noname2 -:-


01 - noname2 +:-
sergey - an24 2:0
vitaliy - rakdar 0:2
noname1 - noname1 -:-


01 - noname1 +:-
sergey - noname2 +:-
vitaliy - an24 1:1
noname1 - rakdar -:+


01 - rakdar 0:2
sergey - noname1 +:-
vitaliy - noname2 +:-
noname1 - an24 -:+



sergey 2-2
01 1-3
vitaliy 1-3


rakdar 6-0
an24 2-4
2010-04-26 11:47:22 Andrey Sviridov (cr_spartak)
cRUSaders - Czech Layback
# 4861

Sorry for not filling results. My fault. Thanks to Jan Purkrábek.

My 5 pp to our team.
2010-04-19 20:40:03 Tomo Dernovšek (jezek_si)
RE: infinite llamas - Midi Rod NG
# 4837
Fill in the results in Match result. Committee (and your teammate) agreed that Malutki3000 could play with the nick Rosicky. When you write results, use the nick Malutki3000, which is registered.
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